{"id":296640,"date":"2023-11-05T23:24:59","date_gmt":"2023-11-05T23:24:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/allmysportsnews.com\/?p=296640"},"modified":"2023-11-05T23:24:59","modified_gmt":"2023-11-05T23:24:59","slug":"our-experts-discuss-what-england-must-do-to-hit-back","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/allmysportsnews.com\/%d1%81ricket\/our-experts-discuss-what-england-must-do-to-hit-back\/","title":{"rendered":"Our experts discuss what England must do to hit back"},"content":{"rendered":"
It has been one of the worst defences of any World Cup by any major sporting team.\u00a0<\/p>\n
So what has gone so badly wrong for England in India?\u00a0<\/p>\n
Mail Sport\u2019s<\/span> expert panel – former England captain Nasser Hussain, former England coach David Lloyd, cricket correspondent Paul Newman and Wisden editor Lawrence Booth – attempt to find the answers.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n England have put up one of the worst World Cup defences in history during the ODI tournament in India<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Their exit was confirmed with their 33-run defeat to rivals Australia on Saturday evening<\/p>\n <\/p>\n It’s likely that captain Jos Buttler will be tasked with rebuilding his England side after the competition’s conclusion<\/p>\n We didn\u2019t see this coming. Why have England been so bad?<\/span><\/p>\n Nasser Hussain:<\/span>\u00a0I don\u2019t think I\u2019ve seen any great side implode quite like this one has here. But it\u2019s not like 2015 when England were trying to put 20 bad years of limited-overs cricket behind them. This has been four bad weeks.\u00a0<\/p>\n If you stay at the same level \u2013 and there are reasons why England have done that, like the focus on Test cricket and lack of 50-over internationals \u2013 others will go past you. That\u2019s what\u2019s happened here.<\/p>\n David Lloyd:<\/span>\u00a0I\u2019m totally shocked. I\u2019m doing alright with India, Australia and South Africa as my predicted semi-finalists but my banker has gone \u2013 and it\u2019s our lot!\u00a0<\/p>\n I\u2019ve said that preparation was very poor but I did think England had the players to overcome that. To be frank they\u2019ve been exposed. Bottom of the table! We\u2019re Scunthorpe!<\/p>\n Paul Newman:<\/span> Everything has been wrong from the moment England asked Luke Wright to announce the squad rather than Rob Key or Matthew Mott. He said it was the final World Cup squad \u2013 it wasn\u2019t. And he said Jofra Archer would be a full-time travelling reserve \u2013 he wasn\u2019t. And it\u2019s been downhill with their decision making and mixed messaging ever since.<\/p>\n Lawrence Booth:<\/span> A combination of factors: poor preparation, mixed messaging, inconsistent selection, bad luck (especially the injuries to Ben Stokes and Reece Topley), poor decisions at the toss, alien conditions, and the improvement of other teams, with South Africa ousting England as world cricket\u2019s big hitters.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n England have lost six of their seven games so far and still have two matches remaining – against the Netherlands and Pakistan<\/p>\n Is this the end of England\u2019s white-ball domination?<\/span><\/p>\n Lloyd:<\/span> Yes. We seem to be just as hesitant a team as we were in the 90s. Not really knowing what way to go when batting and ending up with 250 to 270 \u2013 if not worse. That\u2019s just not good enough in the modern game. Bottom line is that other teams are better both tactically and in their overall play. England are playing catch-up again now.<\/p>\n Hussain:<\/span>\u00a0It is a last hurrah for some players and the end of a 50-over era but not the end for England as a white-ball force. They don\u2019t have to tear it all up and start again. They just have to have a bit of a re-set.\u00a0<\/p>\n What has happened here should not take anything away from all they have achieved and the special memories they have created.<\/p>\n Booth:<\/span> Their 50-over team has been falling away for a while – they just didn\u2019t want to admit it. The T20 side is another matter: if they can defend that title next year, they will argue all is not lost. But their reputation has taken a serious battering.<\/p>\n Newman:<\/span> It doesn\u2019t have to be the end. I\u2019m afraid 50-over cricket is dying worldwide and England\u2019s \u2018it\u2019ll be alright on the night\u2019 approach to this World Cup reflected that. But they won the T20 last year and could easily do the same again next year.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n England won the 2019 ODI World Cup on home soil, the high point of their white ball reset<\/p>\n <\/p>\n They also lifted the T20 World Cup – under Buttler and Matthew Mott – and will defend their title next year<\/p>\n What needs to happen now then?<\/span><\/p>\n Newman:<\/span> This is the first crisis Key has had to deal with as managing director and I would expect him to go back to India now for some straight-talking and big decision making. But this doesn\u2019t feel like some of the spectacular fall-outs of England\u2019s relatively recent past \u2013 and I\u2019ve seen a few. ‘Just sack the lot of them\u2019 doesn\u2019t feel right for this one.<\/p>\n Booth:<\/span> They need to be honest about why they\u2019ve failed, and why they\u2019ve departed from the attacking instincts that have worked so well for them both in white- and red-ball cricket. If I hear once more that there is no \u2018magic bullet\u2019 I will scream.<\/p>\n Hussain:<\/span>\u00a0There\u2019s a T20 World Cup in June and I would keep a core of experienced players and introduce young talent around them.\u00a0<\/p>\n The key is not to panic in the same way Andrew Strauss didn\u2019t panic in 2015 when he could have axed Eoin Morgan. It\u2019s how this era evolves and transfers into a new one that will be England\u2019s challenge.<\/p>\n Lloyd:<\/span>\u00a0There is a suggestion now there will be very little 50-over cricket but we will still have a World Cup every four years. That doesn\u2019t make sense to me.\u00a0<\/p>\n We need to make 50-over cricket meaningful again domestically – either in a league or a straight FA Cup knockout type competition. It\u2019s been downgraded and the result is staring us in the face.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n If in charge, Buttler will likely look to integrate some younger players and potentially keep some core experienced stars<\/p>\n Matthew Mott\u2019s role has been questioned. Should he, Jos Buttler or both lose their jobs after this shemozzle?<\/span><\/p>\n Lloyd:<\/span>\u00a0I would expect the coach to be safe. He won the T20 World Cup last year and England\u2019s cricket is backed up by a strong Blast.\u00a0<\/p>\n The captain? That\u2019s down to him. Jos has scored no runs and it\u2019s not easy keeping and being in charge. Why not go back to the ranks?<\/p>\n Hussain:<\/span>\u00a0I didn\u2019t hear a single person criticising Mott as a coach and Buttler as a captain before this tournament. They have to take responsibility for this, just as the players do, and along with Key look at their decision making because it has been very poor throughout.\u00a0<\/p>\n Take the confusion over Jason Roy\u2019s role before the World Cup and Archer as a possible replacement during it as examples. All of them need to learn from their mistakes \u2013 but it\u2019s not time for Mott and Buttler to go.<\/p>\n Newman:<\/span>\u00a0Gut instinct, admittedly from a distance, is that Mott has earned the right to defend the T20 title he helped win. But he was brought in to work with Eoin Morgan and perhaps he is too similar to Buttler as a character.\u00a0<\/p>\n I wrote a little while ago that Buttler should defend England\u2019s T20 title as captain but he has that haunted look now he had towards the end of his Test career. He\u2019s too good to waste as a player. Maybe it\u2019s time for a new captaincy broom.<\/p>\n Booth:<\/span> The last two games, against the Netherlands and Pakistan, are crucial. If England lose either of those, and miss out on qualification for the 2025 Champions Trophy, it\u2019s hard to see how Mott stays on. But I\u2019d be surprised if they sack the captain as well as the coach.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Head coach Mott (left) and Buttler both have questions to answer following England’s showing<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Mott could too lose his job, but may be given the change to defend the World Cup he helped win next year<\/p>\n Eoin Morgan\u2019s comments have caused a few eyebrows to be raised. Is he the man to bring back the glory days?<\/span><\/p>\n Booth:<\/span>\u00a0Not necessarily, because the likes of India and South Africa are so strong. But he would not have allowed the kind of defeatist public statements we\u2019ve heard repeatedly out here.\u00a0<\/p>\n Morgan understood the importance of positivity – which is easy to mock but even easier to mislay.<\/p>\n Hussain:<\/span> It\u2019s too easy an option. Eoin was a great captain and was always going to be a tough act for Jos to follow. If he wants to go down the coaching route I\u2019m sure it will be a good option for him in future but I think he\u2019s happy where he is at this stage.<\/p>\n Lloyd:<\/span>\u00a0When Morgan first spoke it smacked to me of \u2018gizza job!\u2019 But with my broadcasting hat on, sometimes your words come out wrong and he has backtracked.\u00a0<\/p>\n The players were quick to come out and deny there was something wrong in the camp. And in my experience if they agree with something like that they just stay quiet. I\u2019m in close contact with one player and he says \u2018we\u2019ve just been rubbish. Simple as that.\u2019<\/p>\n Newman:<\/span>\u00a0There was a suggestion Morgan may have been referring to the data and analytical advice England were getting when he said \u2018something isn\u2019t right\u2019 but surely the buck stops with the players.\u00a0<\/p>\n His record as captain means he would have to be taken seriously if he wants to become coach but I\u2019m not sure he wants that to be now.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Former England captain Eoin Morgan suggested that England’s problems run deeper than just on-field performances<\/p>\n <\/p>\n Morgan captained England to the trophy in 2019 and there have been calls for him to return as the side’s coach<\/p>\n Was Rob Key\u2019s announcement of central-contracts midway through the tournament badly timed and does David Willey\u2019s international retirement hint at trouble in the camp?<\/span><\/p>\n Hussain:<\/span>\u00a0I don\u2019t think it hints at trouble in the camp \u2013 it hints at trouble for David Willey. It seems the contracts were decided before they came out here so on top of missing out in 2019 the poor lad must think \u2018why always me?\u2019\u00a0<\/p>\n I do think the timing of the contracts announcement was odd. I can\u2019t see why it couldn\u2019t have been made after the World Cup.<\/p>\n Lloyd:<\/span>\u00a0David Willey is nearly 34 and, I\u2019m sorry, there\u2019s no room for sentiment. He\u2019s been a trojan but there comes a time to move on.\u00a0<\/p>\n Key is spinning plates with the spectre of multi-year franchise deals in the background and is damned if he does and damned if he doesn\u2019t. So he had to get details of these England contracts out there.<\/p>\n Booth:<\/span> This is a red herring for me, because the contract details were known in September. Willey\u2019s decision reflected his personal frustration, not something deeper. But that\u2019s not to say that the new multi-tiered system won\u2019t cause some envy and resentment. The players are only human.<\/p>\n Newman:<\/span> Tricky one. It was not a good look for Willey to arrive at Lord\u2019s ahead of the trip to discover he was the only World Cup player without a contract. But the threat to international cricket from the franchises is all too real so Key had to act quickly.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n David Willey has revealed he will be retiring from international cricket when the World Cup is over after missing out on a central contract<\/p>\n Does the new white-ball era begin in West Indies next month? Do you expect a totally new-look England squad? What players should be at the forefront of that new era and whose days are numbered?<\/span><\/p>\n Hussain:<\/span>\u00a0Some for the future are already here like Harry Brook and Gus Atkinson and they should be joined by the likes of Ben Duckett, Will Jacks and Phil Salt.\u00a0<\/p>\n There\u2019s a lot of talent out there. And make sensible, grown-up decisions on the older players. There are some all-time greats in this squad. So have honest conversations but be careful. Nothing knee-jerk.\u00a0<\/p>\n People told me we should get rid of people like Caddick, Stewart, Atherton and Thorpe when I first became captain. We didn\u2019t and our re-set was all the better for it.<\/p>\n <\/p>\n There have been calls for the likes of Ben Duckett (left) and Zak Crawley (right) to be introduced to the 50-over side<\/p>\n Booth:<\/span> The 50-over team has to start again, with a view to the 50-over World Cup: that means picking the likes of Duckett, Jacks, Brook, Rehan Ahmed and Atkinson, to name only a few. It should be thanks and goodbye to Stokes, Malan, Root, Moeen, Woakes and Wood.<\/p>\n Newman:<\/span>\u00a0Surely we have seen the last, sadly, of Joe Root in England\u2019s coloured clothing. Can\u2019t see why he, Stokes, Malan, Woakes, Wood, Moeen and Rashid would play any more 50-over cricket for England. But other than Root they should all still have a T20 role.\u00a0<\/p>\n I don\u2019t want to under-estimate the scale of this disappointment but this is not like the aftermath of the Ashes 2014 or 2021. England have the strength in depth to quickly hit back.<\/p>\n Lloyd:<\/span> There is not one player nailed on to go to West Indies. There is a clean slate. I\u2019d be excited if I were picking the next squad. It\u2019s a new cycle and there are some real likely lads coming to the fore \u2013 I\u2019ll throw in a few other than the obvious ones \u2013 James Rew, Jamie Smith, Dan Lawrence, Tom Hartley and Josh De Caires. I\u2019d love Saqib Mahmood to be fit too. And all eyes will be on who the captain is!<\/p>\n